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See, now you're on my beat. "Why don’t we make serious efforts to help Mexico root out the corruption and cartels tearing apart that ancient land? Surely a failed state on our border is a very bad thing."

Yes, a failed state on our border is a bad thing, and that's where we're living now. Mexico IS a failed state, the government is a wholly owned subsidiary of the cartels and has been for decades. The government of Mexico doesn't want any assistance, and in fact is anti assistance in the extreme.

Why?

Two reasons,

one-- the government IS the cartels at this point, why would they want our assistance in being not part of the cartels? That's like Gotti wanting assistance in eliminating organized crime in NYC. Two -- The US is viewed (and this is a historically accurate view) as someone who "helps" in central and south America by putting puppets in place, sending corporations down to do unto central and south America what the powers of Europe have done for centuries to Africa, and then splitting before the bill comes due.

Plus we are always a four year term away from "Eh, Central America is boring, lets go look at what Africa is doing."

So, how do you help someone who doesn't want your help? Remember, that guy in Venezuela was legally elected (the first time) because he promised people what they said they wanted! Well, when you want the impossible, the horribly possible is what you get instead, as citizens of every communist nation ever have learned to their sorrow.

What all of the western hemisphere has learned from the 1920s to the 2020s is that how America "helps" is by funding a revolution, propping up a guy that we like, no matter what the locals think, thus picking a winner and a loser, much like Europe did in the middle east for a couple hundred years.

Is that all we've done there? Well, no, we did a lot of good things too, but "the evil that men do, live long after them." That's what is REMEMBERED.

"Why don’t we assist the legitimately elected leader of Venezuela depose the current illegitimate government? Surely an illegitimate government that has destroyed a rich nation’s prosperity, leaving citizens without so much as food security shouldn’t be allowed to stand."

Uh, CIA Operation PBSuccess White curtesy phone, please. See also Pinochet, Iran-Contra, '76 Argentina coup, '71 Bolivia coup, 74 Brazilian coup, '73 Chilian coup, and on and on...

We don't have a track record that would entice the population at large of any western hemisphere nation to want our hands anywhere near them. So what would you have us do?

"But we can help. Publicly and privately.

We hold vast intelligence gathering capabilities. Vast diplomatic power. Vast economic power. We should use them to help our neighbors."

We have intelligence gathering capabilities, yes, but who runs that? CIA, DIA, NSA, and NRO. Those are names that are not in good color south of Texas.

Vast diplomatic power? Sir I think you are living in the past. Biden pretty much destroyed any vestige of diplomatic power we might have had, and frankly we didn't have that much south of the border to begin with. If you're not trusted, you have no diplomatic power. As I mentioned, south of the border, we're not trusted.

Vast economic power? We have had full sanctions, virtually every economic tool at our disposal deployed against Cuba since 1961, has it changed anything? We've had almost every sanction we can use deployed against Venezuela for twenty years. Change? NADA. See also Iran.

At the end of the day, you can not free a man, you can, at best hand him the tools to free himself. If he doesn't want to be freed, you can't do anything to help him. If you free him against his will, he will just go back to a new master. (See most of the middle east for object lessons, test on Tuesday.)

The best thing we can do south of the border, is first make sure that border is SOLID. I mean, ants can't get across the thing solid. Then offer to trade with the people we like, and refuse to trade with those we don't. Other than that, keep our hands out of it! Maybe in fifty years or so, they might trust us enough to offer help and suggestions, but I doubt it.

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An K.'s avatar

Thank you!

I could not agree more! Cleaning up our own backyard would be good! Especially before telling the rest of the world what to do.. or even interfere with their business...

International relations are important yet interfering and overreaching seems to have become a problem.. for gain of course.

The world would be a better place if we'd just focus on and solve our own messes first instead of distracting us with outside drama and foreign "stuff". Our grass is wilting :) and the solution is not out there. It is internal and local.

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