I don't think it's a bad design, in fact i kind of like it for a state seal. Its instant recognition to our state; green background with Washingtons bust. Only from the patterns I've seen with the left, it's not a stretch to view the change as another cancel culture move. The bills that I've read coming from the Democratic side, are anything but logical. ThIs state needs a D.O.G.E. and an audit with a criminal investigation of how inslee and co. spent our tax dollars, including Federal monies. Not to mention a total reform of our voting system, and use of emergency declarations. I believe our state government is completely broken and manipulated by a few.
By reducing government and holding our leaders accountable, would certainly keep the vision of what had been laid out by George Washington. So my vote is to keep his image as our states symbol.
For me it's not the image that uglies the thing up, or the green. Both of those seem really fitting, we are Washington, the Evergreen State. It's the words that mess it up for me. That's far too many letters to have on a flag in my opinion. But, of course everyone will have their own view of that.
I honestly don't know if the move to change it is for the reasons stated (doesn't look good, hard to manufacture) or if it is another form of cancellation. If it is the first, I can live with that, if it is the second, I can't. I suppose that only time will tell when we see who is advocating for the change and what they say about it.
Thank you. I'm glad that you found some value in it. It is just a quirky little bit of history that I fear is being very quickly lost. I did drag the pin out yesterday and showed it to my wife. She had no idea what on earth I was talking about. And she's worked for the Legislature right about twenty years now.
When I started there, some years earlier, it was just something that everyone knew. Institutional knowledge that passed from person to person.
Thanks for sending this link along. I always appreciate recommendations to great writers!
It is amazing how quickly we can lose little bits of our history. In 2000 I think probably every Legislator knew the Talcott story. In 2025 I think I could probably count the number who do on my fingers. 25 years.
I was born in WA 89 years ago and was always proud that our state carried the image of the father of our great country.
A comment about eliminating our past. The SS United States is an example of that. Soon to be scuttled where she can only be visited by a few experienced divers and home to marine life. I recently wrote a letter to President Trump hoping he could convince some of billionaire friends to contribute private $$$ to restore her and put her on public display like the Queen Mary.
I remember in the mid 2000’s, when it was Washington State’s turn for their Commemorative State Quarter for the 2007 minting, there were 3 drafts. One showcased the Salmon, Mt. Rainier and an Apple, signifying the Western, Central and Eastern parts of the state. One showcased (I believe) a whale in the Native American style, similar to the Seahawks logo, and the third one was like the first, minus the Apple. Naturally, the one without the Apple prevailed. I was quite angered by the people preferring the one with no apple than one with it. There was absolutely no harm in including the Apple on the coin. It almost felt to be an affront from the Western Washington people to those in Central/Eastern Washington.
I fear that any updated flag might take the same route, reflecting the values and character of the Puget Sound region only, rather than the entire state, which is very diverse. Right now, it’s very neutral to the character of the state, which weathers well against how our state has changed in its industry, population, and values since 1889.
I don't think it's a bad design, in fact i kind of like it for a state seal. Its instant recognition to our state; green background with Washingtons bust. Only from the patterns I've seen with the left, it's not a stretch to view the change as another cancel culture move. The bills that I've read coming from the Democratic side, are anything but logical. ThIs state needs a D.O.G.E. and an audit with a criminal investigation of how inslee and co. spent our tax dollars, including Federal monies. Not to mention a total reform of our voting system, and use of emergency declarations. I believe our state government is completely broken and manipulated by a few.
By reducing government and holding our leaders accountable, would certainly keep the vision of what had been laid out by George Washington. So my vote is to keep his image as our states symbol.
For me it's not the image that uglies the thing up, or the green. Both of those seem really fitting, we are Washington, the Evergreen State. It's the words that mess it up for me. That's far too many letters to have on a flag in my opinion. But, of course everyone will have their own view of that.
I honestly don't know if the move to change it is for the reasons stated (doesn't look good, hard to manufacture) or if it is another form of cancellation. If it is the first, I can live with that, if it is the second, I can't. I suppose that only time will tell when we see who is advocating for the change and what they say about it.
Also tm note that Washington has the only state flag with a green background.
I think about 2/3 of the states in our Union have flags with a navy blue background. Our flag really stands out when all 50 flags are together.
Interesting. I wasn't aware of that.
Another flag that stands out is the Ohio state flag. It's a pennant, rather than a rectangle.
I like your flag! Simple and uncomplicated! I love the calming green background!
Thanks Charlotte! I think what I don't like are the words. It just seems busy to me. I don't mind the green, or the portrait.
Yes, those are a lot of words. Maybe just leave The State of Washington 1889? Or call it The Great State of Washington 1889?
Cool story, thanks for sharing
Thank you. I'm glad that you found some value in it. It is just a quirky little bit of history that I fear is being very quickly lost. I did drag the pin out yesterday and showed it to my wife. She had no idea what on earth I was talking about. And she's worked for the Legislature right about twenty years now.
When I started there, some years earlier, it was just something that everyone knew. Institutional knowledge that passed from person to person.
It’s funny how rapidly that stuff can slip away, isn’t it? One of my favorite writers, Ian Leslie, just wrote a piece that relates to this you might enjoy: https://open.substack.com/pub/ianleslie/p/how-the-bud-light-debacle-predicted?r=ofba&utm_medium=ios
Thanks for sending this link along. I always appreciate recommendations to great writers!
It is amazing how quickly we can lose little bits of our history. In 2000 I think probably every Legislator knew the Talcott story. In 2025 I think I could probably count the number who do on my fingers. 25 years.
I was born in WA 89 years ago and was always proud that our state carried the image of the father of our great country.
A comment about eliminating our past. The SS United States is an example of that. Soon to be scuttled where she can only be visited by a few experienced divers and home to marine life. I recently wrote a letter to President Trump hoping he could convince some of billionaire friends to contribute private $$$ to restore her and put her on public display like the Queen Mary.
Thinking about this again…
I remember in the mid 2000’s, when it was Washington State’s turn for their Commemorative State Quarter for the 2007 minting, there were 3 drafts. One showcased the Salmon, Mt. Rainier and an Apple, signifying the Western, Central and Eastern parts of the state. One showcased (I believe) a whale in the Native American style, similar to the Seahawks logo, and the third one was like the first, minus the Apple. Naturally, the one without the Apple prevailed. I was quite angered by the people preferring the one with no apple than one with it. There was absolutely no harm in including the Apple on the coin. It almost felt to be an affront from the Western Washington people to those in Central/Eastern Washington.
I fear that any updated flag might take the same route, reflecting the values and character of the Puget Sound region only, rather than the entire state, which is very diverse. Right now, it’s very neutral to the character of the state, which weathers well against how our state has changed in its industry, population, and values since 1889.